Category Archives: x5 Shunter Kit Challenge

Five Shunter Challenge Pt10: Final chassis detail

The three smallest chassis’ have all now been completed. This has included installing pick-ups and motor wires. full details are provided below.

x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

I abandoned the DJH pick-up system and used a variation of the pick-ups I installed on the Sentinel (see, I told you building multiple kits is a good idea).

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

The sentinel has some lovely fine details and brake gear, which I have managed to put together. The instructions advise two different methods to creating pick-ups, but I have gone with a variation of both. I have used fine copper wire on the top of the axles (which also adds a bit of springing to the compensation).

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Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

The Ruston has many little details to add to the chassis, and the text-heavy instructions can sometimes make it a bit difficult to work out where things go.

The biggest challenge was understanding how to fit the false gearchain cover, which I have tried to position around the precious-little space remaining inside the chassis. As discussed in a prior entry, the gear boxes do take up a lot of space. The gearchain cover does look very similar to the fitted gear box, so it could be just left off, but I decided to cut away some sections of the gearchain cover to allow it to fit around the gear box.

Despite my niggles, the finished chassis looks very, very nice.

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11001Judith Edge

I haven’t done much work on this since I ordered the gearboxes, but I know that the next stage is to reduce the width of the axle bearings to allow the gear box to be fitted.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

This one is seriously lagging behind, and is still only a couple of side frames. I will make sure it is up and running before body work commences on the others.

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

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Five Shunter Challenge Pt9: Keeping track

You might be wondering how I manage to remember where I am on all these different kits I am building and why I have (as yet) not lost any parts.

The main reason is that I keep each kit in a transparent plastic box. I have a current subscription to a set of die-cast cars and I use the plastic display cases to store each loco.

I also tick off each section or put a line through each section of the instructions that I have completed for each loco.

I also have a little modelling note book where I write down what I am doing and any troubles I am facing with the kit.

I know that all of this might sound obvious, but if you are like me, you can spend most of summer away from your modelling desk and when you eventually return to it, you just can’t remember what an earth you were doing. Keeping everything in separate boxes has really helped me keep track of all these different projects.

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x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gearbox fitted.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gearbox fitted

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

Five Shunter Challenge Pt8: A return to gearboxes

Now the rust calamity is over, I can return to the construction of the next gearbox.

The 88DS 0-4-0 gearbox is very similar to the one that I built for the Sentinel, but it appears to be a slightly revised design. Using the new flux and extra careful cleaning regime, I have not had any further issues.

I also decided on which gearboxes to purchase for the other three kits. Disappointingly, I have discovered that the small 0-4-0 gearboxes built so far will not fit the BR 02 (its wheel base is too long).

I have settled on High Level Kits Slimliner+ gearboxes for all three of the remaining kits with a 54:1 gear reduction. It is very important to note that the Slimliner+ was chosen because there is very little space inside the chassis for any wider gear boxes when working in OO Gauge. All those balance beams inside the Judith Edge kit frames leads to even less space. I never realised that those working in EM and P4 gauge have much more space to accommodate a range of gear boxes.

x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gearbox fitted.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gearbox fitted

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

Five Shunter Challenge Pt7: The perils of flux

The dark art of soldering mystifies some, but I have managed to work my way through the mysterious technique by trial and error (with some reading). I remain impressed that in years passed I managed to build some brass locos with normal electrical solder. I now know that it is far easier to use a low-heat type of solder.

One lesson I am still learning is the best type of flux to use. Flux is a medium that helps concentrate heat on the joints that you wish to solder. Historically I have used solder paste, but I have discovered that although very helpful, it is virtually impossible to remove all traces of the waxy substance, which can lead to corrosion and the failure of solder joints. My primary issue with the stuff has been its ability to totally destroy paint work over time. Usually long after you have finished the kit.

Due to these problems I switched to a liquid solder a while ago, which is much easier to clean off brass. But as discovered in my previous ‘challenge’ blog, another problem arises: Corrosion. I have used Carr’s ‘Green Flux’ for a while, but this stuff really shouldn’t be left on anything for longer than a few hours. Annoyingly this includes my chassis jig, which the green flux started to eat at soon after I purchased it.

A cleaning regime is essential to eliminate any flux residue. Despite my aggressive cleaning regimes (boiling water, scouring powder, ultra sonic cleaning), some flux residue still manages to persist. I conducted some further research to see if there was a less aggressive flux that I could use. I purchased some different types of flux and I am currently using the O Gauge societies ‘Safety Flux’, which has so far, not caused me any further problems.

I have also started cleaning up work pieces (using the cleaning regime above) after every building session. Even if I plan to continue building in the morning.

Another trick I have used to stop the steel wheels and axles rusting is to store them in a plastic bag with some lubrication oil.

x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. No Rust

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gear Box Fitted. Rust Issues. Super cleaning to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gear box only partly completed.

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Rust Issues. Super cleaning to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

Five Shunter Challenge Pt6: Oh no! It’s Rust!

Tragedy strikes! I returned to my kit builds today to find that three of the shunter chassis’ have acquired an unhealthy gathering of rust on the wheels and axles. Alan Gibson wheels are steel and they don’t seem to have taken kindly to the flux that I have been using to solder up the chassis. This has also affected the axles inside the gearbox I built last time.

After some swearing and general moodiness, I started to investigate how best to remove the rusty residue. I was surprised to find that soaking the model in Coca Cola was a possible remedy. This is apparently due to the acidic content of Coke (there are some quite amazing you tube videos that you can watch).

I set up a Coke bath and dropped the problem parts in and to my surprise, after 2 hours soaking in coke, most of the rust had vanished, and any remaining residue could be removed with a tooth brush.

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Now to find out how to stop this from happening in the future…

x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. No Rust

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gear Box Fitted. Rust has messed up the free running.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gear box only partly completed.

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Rust has messed up the axles.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

Five Shunter Challenge Pt5: Gearboxes

Today we look at the gearboxes that will be fit to the five shunter kits.

My previous models have used Branchlines gear boxes, but I was really keen to try some of the gearboxes produced by High Level Kits for the x5 shunter challenge. In fact, one of the main reasons I purchased the Sentinel and 88DS kits was because the High Level Kits gear boxes were included in both kits. This would allow me to use these gear boxes test with the remaining three locos (as they require gear boxes to be purchased separately).

The instructions for the High Level Kit gear boxes are clear and well illustrated. It is important to work through the instructions and consider the placement of the various reduction gears. Don’t rush this.

I quickly put together the little 0-4-0 gear box provided with the RT Models Sentinel kit, ensuring the folding of the nickel silver pieces were at 90 degree angles using a hold n’ fold tool.

I test fitted the gear box to the compensated chassis and gave it a running in. Everything is running well. On to the next one…

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x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted. Gear Box Fitted.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.

Five Shunter Challenge Pt4: Fitting and removing wheels

Today is a brief look at how I fit wheels to axles.

The five kits being built in the x5 shunter challenge either have Alan Gibson wheels or Markits wheels. The BR 02 is the only model with Markits wheels which are very easy to fit using the special Markits screwdriver. The axles have a square shaft that only allows each wheel to be fitted in one of four positions.

Alan Gibson wheels are friction fit, meaning that wheels are pushed onto a typical rounded axle. The brute force required to push or pull wheels off axles can be a bit scary, especially when you are fitting them onto your lovingly constructed chassis with brake rigging etc. For this reason I purchased some wheel fitting jigs. I bought a selection of cog and wheel ‘pullers’ and ‘pushers’ from fohrmann-WERKZEUGE. These tools have been very useful and limit the chance of damage to any of the models.

x5 Shunter Challenge Progress

BR Class 02 Diesel ShunterDJH

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

Sentinel post war 100HP 0-4-0VBT – RT Models

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

Ruston & Hornsby 88DSJudith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

11001Judith Edge

Chassis block folded. Compensation fitted. Axles Fitted.

English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie 0-6-0DEJudith Edge

No progress

P.S. If there are any aspects of x5 shunter challenge that you want me to cover (be it soldering, equipment… anything at all) please do leave a comment or contact me by email. I will reply. You can also follow me on twitter for instant updates.